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Coronavirus: A Spike in Community Spread Cases

By Joe Hyde, Jun 11, 2020
 

SAN ANGELO, TX — The City of San Angelo confirmed eight more positive Coronavirus cases Thursday.

According to the City of San Angelo, on June 11, there are eight new positive cases of COVID-19 to report today:

• Female in her 20s, Hispanic, TGC, community spread 
• Male in his 30s, Hispanic, TGC, community spread 
• Male in his 70s, white, Coke County, exposure to known case 
• Young male, white, Coke County, exposure to known case 
• Male in his 20s, Hispanic, TGC, pending 
• Female in her 30s, white, TGC, pending 
• Male in his 40s, Hispanic, TGC, pending 
• Female in her 30s, Hispanic, TGC, exposure to known case

Cases: 130
Actively monitoring: 25

May 6, 2020 Texas Military Testing results: 

There were 129 people who scheduled an appointment, only 117 actually tested, which resulted in:

1 Positive (pending investigation for transmission type)
109 Negative
7 Pending
12 Not tested due to not showing up for scheduled appointment

All tests from the Texas Military Testing will be attributed to Tom Green County.

Note that the released numbers exceed the positive count; this is because that number is inclusive of positive cases as well as people in contact with positive cases who were also in quarantine or isolation. From this point on, the subcategories in the positive cases will not add up to the total positive number.

We also removed the DSHS column because we cannot confirm the cases they are monitoring. We can only speak for the cases that our Health Department is actively monitoring.

The City of San Angelo announced it opened city parks and tennis courts on April 25. Here is the story: City of San Angelo Re-Opens Parks and Tennis Courts Saturday

The City of San Angelo released the following information last week:

We received a lot of comments and questions regarding yesterday's new positive case reported from out of state. Because of that we have made some modifications to our graphics. Page one now represents "Tests taken in Tom Green County." Any additional positive case that comes to us for someone who has a "county of residence" in Tom Green County but is tested/treated elsewhere will be added to our second page.

Information about releases:

At some point in the near future, we are going to reach a “released from isolation” number that is larger than the positive case count. The reason for that will be that we placed some people in isolation because they were a close contact/family member to a positive case; they tested negative, but still had to be placed in isolation.

Community spread is when health care workers suspect the case was caused by contact with someone in San Angelo. The other type of spread is when a person has traveled to another area and returned with the infection, and called "travel related." Other cases include family spread. 

The following is a statement from the health department: 

"The removal of positive cases from quarantine/isolation is based on guidance from the Texas Department of State Health Services (DSHS) and Center for Disease Control (CDC); therefore, the health department will report the number of positive cases that have been removed from isolation in adherence to these guidelines.
 
Because removal from isolation is on a case-by-case basis, a cumulative count will be reported on a weekly basis every Friday.
 
As a local health department, we are under the umbrella of DSHS. When it comes to case management, DSHS does not report on the medical management, recovery or follow-up of patients on any infectious disease. We follow suit. DSHS and the local health department are focused on identification of infectious disease (in this case COVID-19) and the notification of contacts of said case(s), as well as providing and adhering to guidance issued by DSHS or CDC. The health department would also report any deaths associated with the disease. Medical management, follow-up and recovery information of patients are between the individual and their medical provider or physician."

The following is a statement from Mayor Brenda Gunter on April 21, the fifth consecutive day without a positive case. 

"I want to thank all our citizens for quickly adapting to this new normal. It has not easy to readjust our lives to the COVID-19 world. Because of our quick response as a community – as painful as it has been – we have been able to at least, as of today, keep the positive cases to a low impact in our city. This being said, we are not at the finish line yet. 
 
Even though we have had only 41 positive cases, it does not mean that we do not have to continue to be diligent in our commitment to protect the health and safety of ourselves as well as our families, neighbors and friends. Our plan is to continue to lessen some of the restrictions imposed on you, your family and your business. 
 
Moving forward, we are re-evaluating what we need to do to ensure we don’t open the door to an avalanche of new cases. At the same time, we want to protect our lives and our livelihoods, as Governor Abbott stated. We will only be successful at opening up all of the businesses in our city if each of you continue to be vigilant in your commitment to following the CDC guidelines of washing your hands frequently for 20 seconds, avoiding touching your face, sanitizing, wearing a face mask, social distancing and staying at home unless you are conducting essential business activities. As painful as this has been, we know there will more tough decisions ahead.
 
We must continue working with each other. Working together, we will survive."

The following is a statement from the City of San Angelo on April 24 regarding released patients. 

"At some point in the near future, we are going to reach a “released from isolation” number that is larger than the positive case count. The reason for that will be that we placed some people in isolation because they were a close contact/family member to a positive case; they tested negative, but still had to be placed in isolation.
 
What does "released" mean in regards to positive cases being released?
The removal of positive cases from quarantine/isolation is based on guidance from the Texas Department of State Health Services (DSHS) and Center for Disease Control (CDC); therefore, the health department will report the number of positive cases that have been removed from isolation in adherence to these guidelines. Because removal from isolation is on a case-by-case basis, a cumulative count will be reported on a weekly basis every Friday.

DSHS and the local health department are focused on identification of infectious disease (in this case COVID-19) and the notification of contacts of said case(s), as well as providing and adhering to guidance issued by DSHS or CDC. The health department would also report any deaths associated with the disease. Medical management, follow-up and recovery information of patients are between the individual and their medical provider or physician."
 

The Rambler Solar Project's Total Cases are as followed: 

Out of the 500 tests administered, 18 employees tested positive for COVID-19. 

  • MAY 2: Unknown gender/age. Out of state residence. Tested through Rambler Solar Project. 49 Male, Florida
  • MAY 2: Unknown gender/age. Out of state residence. Tested through Rambler Solar Project. 39 Male, Florida
  • MAY 2: Unknown gender/age. Out of state residence. Tested through Rambler Solar Project. 47 Male, Florida
  • MAY 2: Unknown gender/age. Out of state residence. Tested through Rambler Solar Project. 38 Male, Florida
  • MAY 2: Unknown gender/age. Out of state residence. Tested through Rambler Solar Project. 54 Male, Louisiana
  • MAY 2: Unknown gender/age. Out of state residence. Tested through Rambler Solar Project. 43 Male, Florida
  • MAY 2: Unknown gender/age. Out of state residence. Tested through Rambler Solar Project. 37 Male, Georgia
  • MAY 2: Unknown gender/age. Residence pending investigation. Tested through Rambler Solar Project. 43 Male, Florida
  • MAY 2: Unknown gender/age. Residence pending investigation. Tested through Rambler Solar Project. 39 Male, Florida
  • MAY 2: Unknown gender/age. Residence pending investigation. Tested through Rambler Solar Project. 33 Male, Florida
  • MAY 2: Unknown gender/age. Residence pending investigation. Tested through Rambler Solar Project. 47 Male, pending
  • MAY 2: Unknown gender/age. Residence pending investigation. Tested through Rambler Solar Project. 34 Male, Florida
  • MAY 2: Unknown gender/age. Residence pending investigation. Tested through Rambler Solar Project. 19 Male, Florida
  • MAY 2: Unknown gender/age. Residence pending investigation. Tested through Rambler Solar Project. 43 Male, Florida
  • MAY 2: Unknown gender/age. Residence pending investigation. Tested through Rambler Solar Project. 40 Male, Florida
  • MAY 2: Unknown gender/age. Residence pending investigation. Tested through Rambler Solar Project. 49 Male, Harris County
  • MAY 2: Unknown gender/age. Residence pending investigation. Tested through Rambler Solar Project. 54 Male, Florida
  • MAY 2: Unknown gender/age. Residence pending investigation. Tested through Rambler Solar Project. 35 Male, Brazoria/Harris Counties

 

Here are the numbers as of Thursday, June 11, at 2 p.m., the last timeframe reported by the City Health Department:

  • 3,476 total
  • 54 pending
  • 0 hospitalized
  • 3,311 negative
  • 130 positive
    • 25 actively monitored
    • 114 released
    • 1 death

Here is the summary of the 130 cases of COVID-19 in San Angelo:

  • March 24, 2020 - First confirmed case in San Angelo. The patient, a man in his 70s, was at Shannon and recovering. He was said to have traveled internationally prior to contracting COVID-19. The City shut down hair, nail and tattoo parlors and stressed maintaining the 6-foot separation rule.
  • March 25, 2020 - The second case was a male in his 20s. Health officials said he was in contact with someone with COVID-19 elsewhere in the state.
  • March 27, 2020 - The third case announced Friday was a female in her 30s who had no known contact with a positive case, which means San Angelo public health officials categorized it as the first case of "community" spread.
  • March 29, 2020 - The fourth case is related to the woman in her 30s who was ill as reported Friday, March 27. This is a small child in the same family. All family members are isolated, the City said.
  • March 29, 2020 - A man in his 30s who is related to the woman in her 30s reported on Friday, March 27. All family members are isolated, the City said.
  • March 29, 2020 - The sixth case is a female in her 20s who came into contact with a confirmed positive travel-related case.
  • March 31, 2020 - The 7th case is a preteen female. She and her household have been self-isolating since March 24. 
  • March 31, 2020 - The 8th case is a man in his 50s from out of town who was here for work purposes. He is currently hospitalized in San Angelo.
  • March 31, 2020 - The 9th case is a man in his 70s. He is currently hospitalized in San Angelo.
  • April 2, 2020 - The 10th case is a male in his 30s who had no known contact with a positive case, categorized as a case of community spread.
  • April 3, 2020 - The 11th case is a teenage female, family member of case #7 (preteen female)
  • April 3, 2020 - The 12th case is a newborn male, family member of case #7
  • April 3, 2020 - The 13th case is a male in his 40s, family member of case #7
  • April 3, 2020 - The 14th case is a female in her 40s, family contact with another positive case
  • April 3, 2020 - The 15th case is a female in her 20s, family member of case #6 (female in her 20s)
  • April 3, 2020 - The 16th case is a female in her 20s with no known contact with a positive case, categorized as a case of community spread.
  • April 3, 2020 - The 17th case is a female in her 60s, travel-related case
  • April 4, 2020 - The 18th case is not community spread. Female in her 40s.
  • April 4, 2020 - The 19th case is not community spread. Female in her 40s.
  • April 4, 2020 - The 20th case is not community spread. Female in her 40s.
  • April 5, 2020 - The 21st case is a male in his 60s who had exposure to a known case. 
  • April 6, 2020  - The 22nd case is a preteen females who had exposure to known positive cases.
  • April 6, 2020 - The 23rd case is a preteen female who had exposure to a known positive case. 
  • April 6, 2020 - The 24th case is a male in his 50s who also had exposure to a known positive case.
  • April 7, 2020 - The 25th case is a young adult male with no recent travel or contact with positive cases.
  • April 9, 2020 - The 26th case is a male in his 60s who had exposure to known case.
  • April 9, 2020 - The 27th case is a male in his 40s who had exposure to known case.
  • April 9, 2020 - The 28th case is a teenage male. The patient was exposed to a known case.
  • April 9, 2020 - The 29th case is a young boy who contracted the virus through community spread.
  • April 9, 2020 - The 30th case is a female in her 30s with exposure to a known case.
  • April 9, 2020 - The 31st case is a preteen female with exposure to known case.
  • April 9, 2020 - The 32nd case is a teenage male with exposure to known case.
  • April 10, 2020 - The 33rd case is a female in her 60s, classified as community spread.
  • April 10, 2020 - The 34rd case is a female in her 60s, classified as community spread.
  • April 11, 2020 - The 35th case is a Female in her 20s, community spread
  • April 11, 2020 - The 36th case is a Female in her 40s, community spread
  • April 13, 2020 - The 37th case is a Teenage female, exposure to known case
  • April 13, 2020 - The 38th case is a Female in her 60s, exposure to known case
  • April 13, 2020 - The 39th case is a Male in his 50s, community spread
  • April 15, 2020 - The 40th case is a Female in her 20s, this case is community spread. 
  • April 16, 2020 - The 41stcase is a Female in her teens, this case is community spread
  • April 23, 2020 - The 42nd case is a Female in her 40s, source of exposure is unknown.
  • April 25, 2020 - The 43rd case is a Hispanic female in her 50s with exposure to known case. Potter County is her county of residence, but she was tested in San Angelo. She has returned to her county and will be monitored by the health department there. 
  • April 25, 2020 - The 44th case is a white male in his 40s, community spread. Runnels County is his county of residence, but he was tested in San Angelo.
  • April 26, 2020 - The 45th case is a man in his 50s, Hispanic, community spread (had no known contacts with a positive case or travel).
  • April 29, 2020 – The 46th case is a white male in his 30s. He was tested in Bexar County but has a county of residence of Tom Green County.
  • April 29, 2020 – The 47th case is a white female in her 40s who was exposed to COVID-19 by a known case. Her county of residence is Runnels County. 
  • April 29, 2020 –The 48th case is a Hispanic male in his 20s who was exposed to COVID-19 by a known case. His county of residence is Runnels County. 
  • April 29, 2020 – The 49th case is a Hispanic female in her 50s who was exposed to COVID-19 by a known case. Her county of residence is Tom Green County. 
  • April 29, 2020 – The 50th case is a Hispanic male in his 20s who was exposed to COVID-19 by a known case. His county of residence is Tom Green County. 
  • April 29, 2020 – The 51st case is a Black female in her 20s who was exposed to COVID-19 by a known case. His county of residence is Tom Green County. 
  • April 30, 2020 – The 52nd case is a black male in his 60s whose county of residence is Coleman County. We cannot confirm the transmission method because the state is conducting the investigation.
  • May 1, 2020 – The 53rd case is a white male in his 40s, exposure to a positive case
  • May 1, 2020 – The 54th case is a black male in his 30s, exposure to a positive case
  • May 1, 2020 – The 55th case is a Hispanic female, teenager, exposure to a positive case
  • May 1, 2020 – The 56th case is a white female in her 40s, community spread
  • May 2, 2020 – The 57th the case is a Black male in his 60s, resident of Coleman county, exposure to known case. 
  • May 2, 2020 – The 58th-78th case is from the Rambler Solar Project. For more check out the article here. 
  • May 4, 2020 – The 79th case is a Hispanic female in her 30s, community spread. 
  • May 6, 2020 – The 80th case is a Male in his 40s – Rambler case
  • May 6, 2020 – The 81st case is a Male in his 20s, Hispanic, county of residence is Harris County – Rambler case
  • May 6, 2020 – The 82nd case is a Teenage female, Hispanic, exposure to positive case
  • May 6, 2020 – The 83rd case is a Female in her 50s, white, community spread
  • May 7, 2020 – The 84th case is a Male in his 30s, Hispanic, exposure to known case
  • May 14, 2020 – The 85th case is a White male in his 30s, transmission type pending investigation, Tom Green County is county of residence
  • May 15, 2020 – The 86th case is a White male, teenager, community spread. 
  • May 18, 2020 – The 87th case is a Female in her 40s, Hispanic, travel-related case
  • May 20, 2020 – The 88th case is a Female in her 20s, Hispanic, exposure to a known case
  • May 21, 2020 – The 89th case is a Male in his 20s, Hispanic, travel-related case.
  • May 22, 2020 – The 90th case is a Male in his 30s, Hispanic, community spread.  Harris County is his county of residence.
  • May 27, 2020 – The 91st case is a Female in her 60s, Hispanic, community spread, (tested in Maverick County, TGC resident)
  • May 27, 2020 – The 92nd case is a Male in his 20s, Hispanic, community spread (TGC resident)
  • May 27, 2020 – The 93rd case is a Male in his 50s, white, community spread, currently hospitalized (TGC resident)
  • May 29, 2020 – The 94th case is a Hispanic male in his 20s, TGC, exposure to known case
  • May 29, 2020 – The 95th case is a White male in his 30s, TGC, exposure to known case
  • May 30, 2020 – The 96th case is a Hispanic female in her 50s, TGC, exposure to known case
  • May 30, 2020 – The 97th case is a White female, teenager, TGC, exposure to known case
  • May 30, 2020 – The 98th case is a Hispanic female in her 20s, TGC, exposure to known case
  • May 30, 2020 – The 99th case is a Hispanic male in his 30s, TGC, exposure to known case
  • May 31, 2020 – The 100th case is a Hispanic male in his 20s, TGC, exposure to known case
  • June 1, 2020 – The 101st case is a Female in her 40s, white, county of residence is Irion, exposure to known case 
  • June 1, 2020 – The 102nd case is a Male in his 60s, TGC, information pending 
  • June 1, 2020 – The 103rd case is a Female in her 70s, TGC, information pending 
  • June 1, 2020 – The 104th case is a Male in his 30s, TGC, information pending 
  • June 1, 2020 – The 105th case is a Female in her 30s, TGC, information pending 
  • June 1, 2020 – The 106th case is a Male in his 40s, TGC, information pending
  • June 3, 2020 – The 107th case is a Male in his 40s, white, exposure to known case.
  • June 4, 2020 – The 108th case is a Male in his 40s, Hispanic, county of residence is Crockett County, community spread
  • June 4, 2020 – The 109th case is a Female in her 40s, Hispanic, exposure to a known case
  • June 5, 2020 – The 110th case is a Female in her 40s, white, travel-related, TGC
  • June 5, 2020 – The 111th case is a Female in her 20s, white, travel-related, tested out of state, TGC
  • June 7, 2020- The 112th case is a Female in her 30s, Hispanic, TGC, exposure to known case
  • June 7, 2020- The 113th case is a Female in her 50s, White, TGC, exposure to known case
  • June 7, 2020- The 114th case is a Teenage male, Hispanic, Crockett County, exposure to known case
  • June 7, 2020- The 115th case is a Male in his 40s, Hispanic, Tom Green County, community spread
  • June 8, 2020- The 116th case is a Female child, Hispanic, Crockett County, exposure to known case
  • June 8, 2020- The 117th case is a Teenage male, white, Crockett County, exposure to known case
  • June 8, 2020- The 118th case is a Male in his 40s, Hispanic, Tom Green County, community spread
  • June 9, 2020- The 119th case is a Teenage female, white, Crockett County, exposure to known case
  • June 10, 2020- The 120th case is a Female in her 70s, white, Coke County, community spread
  • June 10, 2020- The 121st case is a Teenage male, Hispanic, Upton County, community spread (will be monitored in TGC)
  • June 10, 2020- The 122nd case is a Male in his 40s, Hispanic, TGC, community spread
  • June 11, 2020- The 123rd case is a Female in her 20s, Hispanic, TGC, community spread 
  • June 11, 2020- The 124th case is a  Male in his 30s, Hispanic, TGC, community spread 
  • June 11, 2020- The 125th case is a  Male in his 70s, white, Coke County, exposure to known case 
  • June 11, 2020- The 126th case is a  Young male, white, Coke County, exposure to known case 
  • June 11, 2020- The 127th case is a  Male in his 20s, Hispanic, TGC, pending 
  • June 11, 2020- The 128th case is a  Female in her 30s, white, TGC, pending 
  • June 11, 2020- The 129th case is a  Male in his 40s, Hispanic, TGC, pending 
  • June 11, 2020- The 130th case is a  Female in her 30s, Hispanic, TGC, exposure to known case

 

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How isolated are they? How has the public health services done contact tracing? Have they done any contact tracing? We are about to see the criminal negligence at a local level. 5 will go to 10 in 3 or less days. Then 20. Then 40. Exponential growth is what this virus is all about. Ah, but don't worry, tis but a scratch. I mean...flu

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twr_98, Thu, 04/02/2020 - 14:44

Texas has a population of over 25 million. Only 50,600 tests have been administered as of 2:34 P.M. on 4/2/20. Of those 50,000, nearly 5,000 are positive. That is over 9% of the total tested are positive. We have tested .2% of our population.

Louisiana has a total population of 4.5 million. They have tested 50,000. 10,000 have been positive. They have tested 1% of their population.

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twr_98, Fri, 04/03/2020 - 15:34

As of 3:30 PM on 4/3/20, only 55,764 tests have been administered. Of those 55,764 tests, 5,330 were positive. So, 5000 more tests, with nearly 400 more positive. We do NOT have enough tests.

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Mexico & Canada , close borders to keep their people safe , I remember when did the same and was first labeled as a racist, LET THAT SINK IN !!!

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And so is a number. The inflated testing numbers mentioned in previous posts should be taken in a positive light. If so many are testing positive, the Chinese Skyisfalling Media Panic virus is not near as deadly as predicted.

Open up the damn economy!! If you prefer to be a sheep, by all means, stay home and wring your hooves. Let those who want to work do so.

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twr_98, Thu, 04/02/2020 - 14:29

All over Texas, there are shortages of testing, this from numerous doctors I know in several different towns and cities. In many of the small towns, there is no option for testing and they are just treating all cases like bronchitis or the flu because there are no tests. Some towns have to drive 45 to 50 miles just to get tested. There just are not enough tests to test those who have few symptoms but may be asymptomatic for testing. These are the people that are spreading this like wildfire in other areas.

Can someone tell me how many tests are available in San Angelo or in the state? If asked, they will always say the same thing, we have enough, but will not release the actual number.

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Jj@k, Thu, 04/02/2020 - 15:26

Iam with ya. This cases showing up and make seem like they cant tell us anything because they want the spread to continue at any price. Why be so secretive about the person maybe you know one of them and they forgot to mention they had seen yiu recently guess what now you have someone not aware they might be sick and spreading everything just because they want to keep it confidential for whatever reason

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Remember that time when Trump called this a hoax and then a week later declared a national emergency? Pepperidge Farm remembers.

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I remember media on both sides of the coin reporting this as nothing to worry about. Does pepperidge farm also remember this?

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Hey, Pixie Lady. Do you remember when Pelosi delayed passage of the stimulus bill by trying to slip in a billion dollars of wasteful, non pertinent crap in it? Good times, right?

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I remember when Pelosi used to be a spy for china. When do those sort of things stop happening? For life u say? Hmmm that's a bit hweird

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Jj@k, Sat, 04/04/2020 - 14:37

Lets keep everything a secret and see how many more people get infected by keeping where they have been before results were given still dont know why no information is given keep posting how many more get infected it does us no good if we can't see where this might have occurred

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Very few people are needlessly afraid. Many people are starting to become proportionally concerned. Especially in the United states, where we have about 33% case fatality rate so far (number will likely go down, but for now it is what it is) and that is certainly something to cause some amount of concern. After this is over we can kick door and roll heads but we have to make it out alive first.

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I'm wondering where you learned math & percentages. As of this morning the USA had 469,084 confirmed cases with 16,654 confirmed death which is 3.6% death rate ... NOT 33%.

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I'm wondering where you learned common sense. Do people die the day they are infected? Doesn't it usually take a few weeks? There are 2 possible outcomes to a disease. Recovery and death. Of the 2 possible outcomes, 1/3 of them so far are death. This number will likely go down some. It will never be 3% in the USA. If there were no new infections tomorrow, the case fatality rate still wouldn't mathematically be capable of being 3%. I'll give you this much. You've done better than the idiot using mortality rates.

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The fatality rate is NOT 40%. Using your figures 22,105 fatalities divided by 560,402 confirmed cases = .039 (3.9%) fatality rate. Dude where did you go to school??

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Is this similar to the "capsaicin leer" that develops from frequent exposure over a prolonged period of time? ... Asking for a friend...

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And would you like to share with us some links to where you've obtained the data for your 33% death rate and the timescales involved in your calculation? Are we even basing this number off of hard data or has any part of this rate been based on a projection - a "made up" number nominally considered to be an educated guess? After all, if we're working with a timescale of 100 years, chicken pox has an almost 100% mortality rate.

Surely you don't mean to just throw out some numbers and put the onus on us corn-fed holy cows to piece together how your numbers could hypothetically be right.

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Rita... spot on. One must consider the number of infected persons over the length of the study period compared to the number of deaths over the length of the study period. The statement regarding folks' not dying on the day they are infected is wholly irrelevant. Using a current total infected figure of 530,000 and a current total fatality figure of 20,608 yields a death reate of 3.89%

Executioner stated, ".. 2 possible outcomes from a disease, recovery and death. Of those outcomes, 1/3 have been death.". Using his logic, as you stated, only twice as many people recovered from the disease as died. Hogwash.

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When they figured the death rate for SARS at 8% after it was said and done they used to the final numbers of "how many people got the disease" and divided it by "how many people died" correct? We are nowhere near completion of this. The only certain numbers that we have are the # of people confirmed to have it, and whether or not they died or recovered. We dont know how many have had it and didn't know it nor how many people died without a confirmed diagnosis. Both numbers are variable and we can only speculate. We have no idea what the outcome of the people who were tested yesterday is going to be, whether they recover or die and using them in your statistics is blatantly misleading.

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Everyone who ate carrots in the civil war that is. 100% mortality rate for carrot eaters. Absolutely, here is the best compilation of numbers (from what I can tell, but they are all just educated guesses at this point)

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

There is also https://www.wuflu.com

I haven't looked at the wuflu site in a while though I'm not sure of its accuracy. The idea is when you use mortality rates you take the entire population and divide the deaths and you get a minuscule number which is great when you're trying to downplay a situation. What I've done is looked at the number of outcomes (death or recovery, because no one gets cv19 and the poof gone into thin air) and found what percentage of those out comes were death. Now, I've said before it's an evolving number and will likely go down however mathematically it will never be 3% or less even if there were no new infections. Its probably going to sit somewhere between 10% and 25% when it's all said and done. Ugly, rotten numbers, but it's the best case scenario so far. The reason we are calling for.social distancing is because this isnt an ass to mouth disease. Walking into a building with hvac air conditioning ducts is enough to spread it. Nearly unavoidable, but the death rates will presumably be lower if we can slow down the rate of infection and/or prevent people from getting it entirely.

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When I go to the homepage for the "Worldometer" numbers you've provided, it displays many categories which appear to be changing in real time. One of these categories is "money spent on illegal drugs this year," and the number just keeps going up and up. This now begs the question... how does "Worldometer" know these things? Where is it pulling this information from? That doesn't even get into the methods of data gathering used in producing these numbers.

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The case counts match those of the total reported in the news (not that the news is the end all be all) for the specific states I checked as well as the national count. They are as accurate a number as you're going to get. However, feel free to use any number from any source you feel comfortable with. The important information I was passing along wasnt hard number evidence but the proper equation for the statistic trying to be achieved.

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Rita, beautiful intelligent RiRi, I know better than to think you're not capable of grasping this! You're too smart! I've read your posts! Eventually, everyone will fall into the 2 categories of dead or recovered. Looking into the future. If there were no more new cases (I think we are at 2 million world wide today) and not a single new death (I believe we are 125k dead roughly) and we take those numbers and get a percentage it isnt 3%. We are at 6% using those numbers (I think its early and I didnt use a calculator) but using those numbers is irresponsible because the people tested within the last week maybe even 2 weeks haven't had an outcome yet and we can reasonably assume a portion of those outcomes will be death. If you'd like a closer number to use instead of the currently infected, go back 2 weeks and see how many were infected then, and divide our current deaths into it. People dont die the day they test positive. It usually takes a week or 2.

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Hmm. Even 6% is nowhere near 33%. These are coronavirus numbers we're talking about, not the ratio of angels that Christians believe initiated a resistance in heaven. It's more probable that statistics for the later are accurate than the number you've provided for the COVID-19 mortality rate.

Even if your theology was right after all, I'd have to imagine some angel somewhere must be shaking his head at the way you come up with these figures.

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Whom in regard are keeping an eye on this group of people from infecting the mass.
Seems the reporting is of a family, group or small community the majority of the positive cases are coming from.
Again, whom is guaranteeing our safety from this group.

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No one. Absolutely nobody is going to keep track of these individuals. You're on your own. Wear a mask anytime you leave your home. Start using elderberry syrup for antiviral prophylaxis.

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A ''guarantee of safety'' might be a tall order, but there is that bunch who for reasons unbeknownst to us, are steadfast in their decisions to withhold potentially life saving information from the public.

They may rethink their decisions, if a family member or friend becomes ill -- though of course, family and friends may have already been given the heads up.

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Of course they have. Are these numbers including the Reese-Albert infections also San Angelo Live or Shannon? I'd like an answer please

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Without a drastic, top-down authoritarian intervention, it would be impossible to offer a guarantee of safety anyway. And if you didn't like that "guarantee," the only place you'd get any respite from it would be on the far flung fringes of the outer proletariat, (as Toynbee might put it, or "being 'bout that life," as we say in modern colloquial parlance). Too many different dispositions at work in society to allow that guarantee to go smoothly.

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It is no surprise, the fast growing number of cases is to be expected when people ignore the warnings and go on their merry way like it is a "HOAX" or they think they are invincible. I had a Dr. appoint Tuesday, first time out of the house in a while, the traffic was heavy with no noticeable decrease. I was in disbelief at the amount of private vehicles on the road with the current health crisis and the city shut down. I expect the positive cases to continually grow, it appears that all age groups have been infected, that says people are not taking this seriously.

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All viruses are not created equal and each has it's own specific dangers. Those that ignore the warnings are most likely to be infected. Your First Amendment rights end when they become hazardous to others, there are limits to the 1st believe it or not.

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What if I'm a needy, insecure herd animal who assumes that romping around the park in celebration of a bastardized Pagan tradition supersedes any concerns or threats to your health?

It's my ''God-given" right to assemble a dozen of my favorite cohorts at any public venue of my choosing. I want to wipe the snot from my nose with my bare hand and then handle playground equipment. I want to experience a coughing bout, while I stand as close as I can to you, and of course, leave every bit of my brood's contaminated garbage strewn across the park like I do at every San Angelo park I visit.

I know my rights.

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Lares, It is not a GOD given right but is a constitutional right with limitations. It is illegal to yell fire in a crowded theater when no fire exists, terroristic threats are illegal, A HIV infected person attempting to infect others is illegal... You see we have the SCOTUS that decides the constitutionality of the rights afforded in the constitution.

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You also don't have any "right" to expect that all hazard will be removed from life for your safety. That you err on the side of caution is your choice, and whatever laws are enacted during this event carry whatever weight they carry, but that you choose to ignore the context in which the events surrounding the spread of this virus has arisen is a failing on your part.

The "experts" are not free from political bias and often don't have credentials that merit the trust placed in them. All claims, even from supposed authorities on a matter, should be examined critically and received with a measure of skepticism. So far, this virus isn't quite "adding up." At best, we've overreacted globally. Then again, that may have been the point all along.

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What's your point Rita, that a group of Jews ignore safety precautions and get away with it? They're putting other in their group at risk, I notice one person had a face mask on, LOL. The cops kept the windows closed. I wonder how that same situation would have turned out if it were a group of blacks, Asians, Mexicans or some ethnic group.

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Just showing you that some people don't live in fear of this hyped virus and seem none the worse off for it. Truly, these men exhibit the same caliber of chutzpah that made, and long kept, America a free nation. They are an example to us all.

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Despite the media created panic in our rural area, it is Good Friday. Time to be thankful for a Christ that died at Calvary for our sins and rose again so there is hope for all sinners. My family will avoid the hysterics of the Chinese SkyisFalling Coronafascist Mediapanic Virus, while remembering Good Friday and Easter. He is risen, he is risen indeed! Proverbs 3:5-6 lends comfort - Trust the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding. In all your ways acknowledge him and he will direct your path. Government does not direct my path and the hysteria of San Angelo Live does not direct my path, rather, I trust my path to the Lord.

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Judge Jury Executioner you wrote : "... in the United states, where we have about 33% case fatality rate so far (number will likely go down, but for now it is what it is) and that is certainly something to cause some amount of concern.
I'm wondering where you learned math & percentages. As of this morning the USA had 469,084 confirmed cases with 16,654 confirmed death which is 3.6% death rate ... NOT 33%.

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I replied to your previous post, however I'll do a quick rundown here. 2 possible outcomes from a disease, recovery and death. Of those outcomes, 1/3 have been death. You don't use the total number of infected and divide it by the deaths because people don't die the very same day they are infected. Easy mistake to make, but now you know better.

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