Undercover Prostitution Operation Nets 10 Arrests

Spending all that time and money arresting guys who are just looking for some action. IMO prostitution should be legalized. Then maybe women in the trade wouldn`t get murdered and dumped in back alleys. Give them access to health care.Restrict their activity to certain areas, but make them safe areas....and yes, I am serious...

I guess if we legalized prostitution, the entire sex trafficking world would collapse and we could all live happily ever after? How deep does your opinion go?
Do you think you could look into the eyes of a 16 year old sex trafficking victim and tell her that same thing? It's ok darlin', in just 2 short years you can legally put yourself out there to be bought and used. "Those guys are just looking for some action!"?

It's not like the majority of these women had great upbringing's and just decided one day in their mid- twenties to sell themselves. This problem starts with those that "demand" the sex trade... You know, supply and demand... And what they want is girls who aren't legal, they will settle for less though. These girls, get targeted very early in life... Don't kid yourself.

Underage sex trafficking will happen regardless of legality... Caving to the desire's of one's flesh isn't the answer. Just because someone's actions don't have a specific affect on the masses doesn't mean that it has no effect whatsoever. Call it what you want but, we can't even regulate the "snap" food stamp program, what makes you think we can regulate a "legal" sex trade? Oh, wait, it does have an effect on the masses... Disease, broken homes, failed marriages, fatherless children... Let's Legalize It!!! Yay!!!

Human trafficking continues in Germany and they have a legal sex trade... Next question please!

Sex Trafficking is a very intersectional and complex issue. After reading these comments, it is clear that there is a lot of work to be done when it comes to educating the general public in San Angelo. While there is debate whether selling sex should be legal or not, buying sex should always be illegal.

Women in prostitution are always exploited and face violence. If you asked any woman what she wants to be not a single one of them would answer "a prostitute." There is an agency issue in prostitution, WOMEN IN PROSTITUTION DO NOT HAVE AGENCY (this means I do not buy the "two consenting adults" arguement). While it might be easy to say that women in prostitution make their own decisions, they do not. This can be seen through push/ pull factors leading to entrance in to sex trafficking and the mass majority of women in prostitution have pimps, who beat, abuse, rape and exploit them, and on top of all of that, their pimp gets their money, the women do not get to keep the money.

As if the abuse these women see from their pimp was not bad enough, but they also see abuse from their buyer. John Stings are so important to address the elimination of the demand side of buying sex, WITH NO DEMAND, THERE IS NO POINT IN HAVING A SUPPLY. Way to go Abliene PD for running a John Sting and publicizing it!!

(For more information/ reading about all of this, I suggest the TVPA, the UN's Palermo Protocol, and watch I Am Jane Doe (on Netflix) and Episode 1 of PBS's A Path Appears, which is on Amazon and Prime members can watch for free.)

I was beginning to feel like the only one who's actually done any real research into the subject for a bit...

It's funny how you use certain words to make your point Lares... You use the word "indoctrination", when you talk about Christianity... Indoctrination is when, you teach a person or group a set of belief's uncritically... That's not what Biblical Christianity does... In fact, we have to produce quite a bit of "critical" evidences, especially nowaday's, for people to base their decision on.

You use the word, "Vilify", when you defend honestly questionable values... Vilify means to, speak about in an abusive and derogatory manner. You defend shameful ideas and use your words to make it seem as though, these things were never "bad", and any who speak out against them must be trying to give these an "evil" connotation that didn't already exist.

Although I would classify your work in the ranks of a "clever", or maybe even an "articulate" man, I wouldn't put you in the ranks of someone who's work doesn't stink of the foul "indoctrination's" that you've delivered to yourself.

There is a significant difference between a woman who performs sex for an audience, (i.e. porn star) and a prostitute in the sex trade... Generally speaking, a woman in the porn industry sought out the line of work she is involved in... A prostitute is overwhelmingly sought after... She is persuaded through techniques that under any other subject, you Lares, would be condemning in a heart beat... Most prostitutes are coerced into the life. If someone used coercion to spread the Gospel, you'd jump on that like certain "Live" readers jump on your bandwagon. But it's O.K. for the prostitute to be coerced?

It's funny that you condemn my "rants", saying that you feel cheated, that all I provide are "copy/paste" jobs, and feel as though you do anything better.
You can change the words to fit your "style", but it's not hard to look up story's, and forum's on the subject of debate, and see that you rarely post an original thought on your side of things either... You come across as someone who's well educated on many topics of debate, but truthfully, your greatest strength's lie in the use of "Google", to give you inspiration, and the thesaurus to help you "vilify" those who oppose you.

I must agree with San_Angelo_Native, buying sex should always be illegal. No amount of your "indoctrination", will produce enough change to make your vice's, socially acceptable moral's.

Bestiality is illegal too... Are you a proponent of opening "legal" bestiality brothels? It's the same thing, just with an animal... People do it illegally all the time, it would help to curb the "abuse" and make it safer for the animals and humans involved... the government could provide the necessary vet checks.

The same principle you use to justify one thing, doesn't make sense in another application does it?

You don't seem to be a parent... Do you have kids? I reckon not. When you raise a child, sometime's the kid wants to have, or do things, that would hurt him. As a responsible adult, it is natural to say "no", to things that aren't best for your child. If your kid wants to play with a knife are you going to let him? If little Lares wants to be infantilized and have "legal" prostitutes and weed in Texas, we as the mature adults have to set a boundary with him and say, "no, no" Lares, that's not ok. Now Lares isn't going to understand why the thing he wants is not ok, but it's our job to let him know that, even though he doesn't understand right now, it's not in his best interest to smoke pot and fornicate with a prostitute.

There's not a lot of stat's on sex workers period... You can't even point to stats regarding the numbers of sex workers who ranked their profession as something they were "Alway's Satisfied", in, because sex work goes much deeper than you care to think... But why should you care, it's not your life and she "liked" it huh? Really, we're defending morals and values that are thousands of years old and will have to for as long as we are around... Don't piss on my shoe and tell me it's raining Lares...

http://www.gospelherald.com/articles/54619/20150305/former-prostitute-reveals-the-truth-about-fifty-shades-of-grey-how-christ-redeemed-her-past.htm

Regardless of my level of agreement with Nate and Lares' dialogue, I can't help but think that this is an improper forum for the repeated attempts at proselytizing by our friend Nate. The narrative always seems to drift further and further away from the original topic of the news story, and into some kind of Sunday school for all the heathens. Let me be clear sir, I would fight and die to defend your right to believe whatever floats your boat, as well as your right to shout it to the world. However, a little consideration for those of us who have been to Sunday school and really don't want to repeat the experience would be greatly appreciated. Yes, you can, and most likely will, continue to evangelize on this venue set aside to discuss the news of the day, as is your right, unless muzzled by the editor. Think of the latest rants section as an all you can eat buffet, just because you can eat all you can, doesn't suggest that you must.

The editor must muzzle me... Then I will come by phone... I will use my neighbors computer, no new user will get looked at without suspicion on the day that occurs. I will be a pain in the neck for folks who don't want to hear what we all know I talk about... Lares can smear Live religiously for years and you don't complain, stop crying now. Be thankful that all I'm doing is referring to how I believe in a God of love who gave us a gift we don't deserve... For the Lord's sake man! I'm not strapping bombs to my chest because you're in opposition to my belief's... Focus on a real problem, like the indoctrination of Islam in prisons and on the internet... not the message of the cross that I share... Wait, the message I share is a real problem for many of you isn't it? That's cool, I never wanted to make people happy and agreeable with what I share, and I too sir, would die for your right to slap, spit, fight, and argue about how you disagree... I will also fight the notions and perspectives that get shared opposite of my own, because some fought and died for my right to do so...

That's why our country is falling apart, we don't want God anymore... Are you seriously telling me that it is "improper" for me to share my opinion on Live when that's all anyone else does? For folks who don't want the Bible, ya'll seem to find your proper place in it. When I preach Christ crucified, Jews get offended, and Gentiles say it is foolishness.

Funny how everyone else's view's are tolerated but mine somehow oversteps that boundary huh?

exactly what your message is. If the radio plays the same song over and over again, I switch stations, as do many others. I'm not criticizing your message, just the forum. I too have issues I feel strongly about, and I have no issues discussing them with people I know are genuinely interested, but most folks don't appreciate a sermon when they paid admission for Star Wars. Your emphatic response, more emotional than previous, suggests I touched a nerve. No harm or disrespect intended.

I guess when God is brought into everyday conversation it gets to played out for some people, since after all it must be a sermon if God is involved right? It has to be true because everyone knows that God our creator, should not be a part of daily lives and conversations, not like he gave us the breath we breathe or anything like that, how dare we speak so highly of him and so little of ourselves, oh wait i think that some people may have that backwards huh.

No harm or disrespect taken, just expressing something I'm passionate about, I do get quite expressive, but not even Lares get's me mad, so trust that I get where you're coming from. I wouldn't have gone down a rabbit hole if there wasn't one created by someone who wishes to slander Christianity and parade sick moral's around for 4+ years... I do apologize, but I also ask for folks to bear with me here... You bore much before me I'm sure. I do try to stick to the topic generally... There is a reason that these John's were targeted in that sting and I support everything that will effect any minor change in the sex trade because it destroys people on both sides... I do personally know someone who was coerced into the lifestyle and trust me, "consent" can come as a result of "breaking" someone's spirit, although you won't hear that point brought up much.

I can relate... I saw a prostitute get beaten by her pimp in the parking lot of a motel right here in San Angelo... Sadly, I did nothing because at that time in my life, I didn't care as long as it wasn't me.

Thing's like that are why I will never be inactive again in situations like that. I genuinely enjoyed reading about your experience RR... You're right to say that it's not a matter of judging the people who do wrong things, but it is important to be that change in every way possible, where you are, with what you have.

I believe these things line up with the word as well. I honestly do enjoy these stories RR... You have a valuable bit of experience that is worth sharing.

Is my reaction to Nate every time. I scan his post, see the 'God' rant and move on. His constant ranting about religion is a bore...

If you want something that will captivate your attention, you should watch this "extremely graphic" video. It shouldn't be hard for you to watch, you are after all an avid supporter of what this video contains.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvD-khhFdOU

Thanks Nate! Glad to be a part of "Live". I've never liked to see people who bully others with their points of view because someone disagrees. The same one's who want people to listen and respect their views are the first people to attack when someone challenges those ideas. People can't believe that we don't just blindly accept their ideas. I think it's because all throughout history there have been people who are opposed to the idea that there's a God. If God exists, then people are accountable for their lives based on what he says in the bible. It's easier for them to deny him and do their own thing. Live fast and die young. That's why I said that if the bible wasn't truly God's word, it would've been destroyed. Many have tried to erase God in the past but they haven't succeeded. He must be God. It's like these sex workers we're talking about, it's like, if they don't value themselves, then it's OK for us to not value them either, and that's not right.

I'll blend my 2 comments together here... I agree with your main point about suggesting folk's move, I get that people want to see change come to American laws and culture, rather than go somewhere that the culture and laws already exist.

Main Point- To a great deal of American's, letting go of the "rigidly" held moral's and value's, to us, would be the equivalent of "relinquishing ideals, and freedoms." It may seem to many, that the "Churchy" folk's just want to deny everyone who doesn't adhere to the same belief system, the right to behave in a manner that correlate's to their own ideal's. I may be "heavy handed" [although I prefer to consider it passion] in many of my endeavor's to bring God into the culture and debate, I respect free will. Ultimately, it doesn't matter what our laws say, if a man want's to get a prostitute, or smoke some herb, the law is not going to guarantee that he won't, or that those who supply those things won't be there to provide service to the seekers.

It is difficult to discuss moral's and value's but equally important, I believe there is a stronger reason to have these values than there is to support their diminishing any further. You tend to side on preferential and subjective selection. I am under no delusion that "I" can change that, but I do believe that if you honestly start over and re-asses some of your belief's, you would find something different at work in the world. I am constantly looking at "why" I believe what I believe. I constantly research the new and exiting discoveries that support what I believe... I also look at the philosophies and religion's that are different than mine, so I can understand them and avoid being unable to relate. Lares takes a similar stance to minds such as, Friedrich Nietzsche, and maybe Richard Dawkins as well.

Aside from that, I love Cajun Food as well... I don't know if it is still there, but we did have a place in the little Tinseltown plaza that was Cajun themed, but I was no fan of their food. If somebody was to do it right, I think a Cajun Restaurant would do well.

Back to the topic at hand, I understand the principle idea of your argument for decriminalized prostitution, but I think the basic truths that can be seen and addressed about this issue in relation to humanity veer much more in agreement with the majority of those who believe it is wrong even if some are content to live that way. I have no problem talking about these thing's but if someone says that I'm wrong, of course I'm going to defend, through worldly based reason, and biblical doctrine... That is after all, what I believe in.

You're welcome Puppies.

I accept your apology, thank you. It can be hard to tell on media, I feel sorry for the man who's name is cute little puppies.
I did re-read the post's here of Nate's and it seems that he kept the enthusiasm curbed well. There were references that he did make but if you go back and look, from the beginning of the conversation, it's not like he's really behaving in the way that you portray. "Bible banging, Preaching, and Heavy Handed Religious Rhetoric, Sunday School, Mini Sermons, and Dragging Religion into the exchange." Is that an accurate description of the terms that you used to describe his comments on this specific thread? I mean, seriously, what makes the few way's that Nate points to God so wrong? I have been following "Live", for a while before I started my profile and feel like your view on Nate's rants could readily be flipped back your direction, you do spend a lot space on the rant section yourself, subjecting not just your "like minded", buddies, but everyone to your view, and your blatant hostility to the general mention of God. Am I wrong? I do see that what Nate says is true, you've been doing this for at least 4 years, how quick you are to point your finger when for just a short time Nate has given his input. Think it through, while I also respect differences of opinion, it's not exactly like you're not guilty of doing the same thing as Nate and longer too, just you have been on the opposing view's side of things.
We don't have the freedom and liberty to "sexually purchase" another human being throughout this country. There are a few places that are a minor exception to that rule, but there are reason's it hasn't changed. I don't see how leaving a country because you don't agree with law's and policy being "degrading", or as being something that would label us as being a "lesser nation".

I have a momma cat and 3 kittens that stay outside and aren't fixed, and of course a whole neighborhood of unfixed males... Called around, and shy of paying for it myself, I can't get a response about if they would qualify for TNR. I do feed them, and I put flea/tick collars on them but can't afford much else.

Yep, it's been about a 3 year ongoing problem... My wife saved and hand raised some kittens that were birthed in our garage and we've been dealing with the continuing offspring for a while now... I've grown accustomed to giving shot's and even had to remove a treble hook from the belly of one of the original kittens a few years back... I went to pet him and felt what I thought was a clump of burrs in there... Turns out this crazy dude climbed up a tree that I had been using to hang "Drop Line" fishing rigs... Apparently, he had to chew through the "tarred" nylon string I used to rig them up to let himself down from the tree.

Needless to say, I felt horrible and after I was able to snip the barb off and pull the hook back out of him... I moved my rigs. These hood cats are all the way Texan's, don't need much to make it and don't complain about anything besides food... And maybe the loose dogs.