Eggemeyer Fired Over Angry Cactus

 

Eric Eggemeyer has officially been canned from the Design and Historic Review Commission (DHRC), following his vocal opposition to a cactus sculpture proposed to mark the entrance of a planned new restaurant, the Angry Cactus.

The decision to remove Eggemeyer from the board comes following Tuesday’s DHRC meeting, during which Eggemeyer voiced opinions that entrepreneur Timothy Condon’s sculpture was “too large”, too eye-catching and not historical enough for the city’s historical center.

After fielding numerous phone calls from citizens of San Angelo, city councilman Rodney Fleming spoke with Eggemeyer and determined that the differences in opinion were too great for the commissioner to continue to serve under Fleming’s appointment.

“I disagree with Eric Eggemeyer’s point of view on this sign,” Fleming said in an interview Wednesday. “I don’t have any problem with it, and it’s becoming such a hotbed topic and I’m getting phone calls over it and every single phone call I’ve got has been for this sign. I haven’t had a single person tell me they were against it. And I’m for it. I’m for anything with business, as long as it fits in. It passed our legal standards as far as the city, it’s our historical committee that has a problem with it.”

Fleming said he appointed Eggemeyer to the DHRC roughly a year ago, and up until now, has not had any major issues with Eggemeyer’s representation on the board. However, commissioners are appointed by councilmembers to essentially serve as an extension of themselves, and after some discussion, Fleming said he did not feel that Eggemeyer was the right person to fill the seat.

Fleming said that despite having spoken with Eggemeyer Wednesday morning, he was unable to reach him via telephone or text message later that afternoon to relay his decision.

"I wanted to tell him in person," Fleming said. But Eggemeyer did not answer or return the numerous phone calls. Ultimately, Fleming said, he left word of his decision on Eggemeyer's voicemail, which prompted a response.

"Eric was very upset," Fleming said.

He said the course of the conversation then turned to spite, when Eggemeyer told Fleming: "You're not even from San Angelo. You're from Mason, so what do you know about historical San Angelo?!"

Fleming, a resident of San Angelo for over 20 years, was incensed by the statement. He mentioned a recent report that lists San Angelo as one of the state's fastest-growing cities, as well as the Air Force base, and said he felt Eggemeyer was devaluing any and everybody in the community whose roots stem from beyond city limits.

“Because he is an appointee of mine, I feel like my appointee should…have the same views that I have, and clearly, we do not,” Fleming said. 

Fleming emphasized that as a small business owner himself, he is familiar with the hardships of governmental red tape small business owners face, and is an advocate for entrepreneurs.

One of the biggest issues between councilman and appointee, Fleming said, was Eggemeyer’s encroachment on business marketing strategies and his view that the cactus has no historical reference. 

“Neither does a truck at the top of a restaurant. He (Eggemeyer)…said that [the cactus has no historical significance] and I said, ‘A cactus is the epitome of San Angelo and west Texas, so if you want to talk about historical significance, a cactus is that way.’

“He wanted the face taken off the cactus and I was like, ‘well that’s a marketing thing,’” Fleming continued. “We shouldn’t be involved in telling people how to do their logos and their marketing.’ I don’t want anybody telling me how to market Angelo Home Team and what kind of logo I can use and draw and put on my sign.” 

Overall, Fleming said, the debate revolving around the cactus has been questionable, particularly the notion held by some commissioners that the sculpture is “phallic”, “kitsch” or “offensive”.

“That’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard,” Fleming said.

On Wednesday afternoon, Fleming visited the city clerk and submitted a formal letter asking for the removal of Eggemeyer from the board. In his place, he said, he is appointing Debbie Cunningham, a local insurance agent and realtor.  

“The biggest thing is she’s a small business owner and she sees the hardship,” Fleming said as to why Cunningham was chosen. “I really sympathize with small business owners that are battling the big government system on these things. In Tim’s case, he’s having to waste time and money on this situation, where it should never even have come up. We should not be talking about this at all.”

With the paperwork underway, Fleming intends to have the council vote on his appointment of Cunningham at Tuesday’s meeting.

Eggemeyer was not available for comment at the time of publication. 

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I didn't vote for Fleming, but kudos to him for listening to his constituents. That's the way city government should try to work. They are on the City Council as a representative for their district and the district has spoken. Well done, Mr. Fleming. Well done.
I am a proponent of dissention - within reason. Mr. Eggemeyer's reasoning was beyond logic, beyond sensical. It bordered on spite and almost overt hatred. It's a shame that such a successful businessman cannot show the same maturity and difference on a board that would require such. Hopefully, he will learn and grow from this. Not holding my breath, though.
Eggemeyer and his attitude about outsiders (which is all too common here, I've been here 20 years too and am still discriminated against by the "natives") are an embarrassment to San Angelo, and have no place in government at any level. Good riddance!
Thank you Mr fleming for doing the right thing !!! You just opened the door for san angelo to move forward into the 21st century and give san angelo a chance to grow !!!
I applaud Mr. Fleming's decision to remove Mr. Eggemeyer from the position. He obviously had a burr in his butt(or was it a cactus thorn?) over Mr. Condon's Angry Cactus logo. His unwillingness to compromise even a little bit sealed his fate. I can't understand Eggemeyer's reasoning here at all, the cactus is certainly a San Angelo native and that seems to be pretty important to him.
"You're not even from San Angelo. You're from Mason, so what do you know about historical San Angelo?!" Says the one who grew up in Wall, and not in the city limits...
jdgt, Thu, 10/30/2014 - 10:35
This is the BEST article I've read, to date. I love watching a loser, lose. Best of luck Mr. Condon with moving forward with The Angry Cactus. I, for one, can't wait to dine there!
Some may not agree with Mr. Fleming decision but something needed to be done. To much focus has been giving to this non-issue. Not sure if relieving Eggemeyer was the right way but I stand behind Mr. Fleming's logic and support him. He had the courage to do something. These type of actions need to be done more often. Some of you will piss and moan about how this was handled. Mainly because these are the people that are never happy with any decisions made for the good or bad of San Angelo. They love drama!
L5, Thu, 10/30/2014 - 11:10
Who are the council members that appointed Sandra Morris & Ashley Young-Turner, who can tell us that? If the members of the DHRC are supposed to be an extension of the councilmembers, whose opinions are they expressing, which councilmember has those views that Sandra Morris & Ashley Young-Turner are spouting.
I haven't lived here very long, 3 years residence and 15 years coming here with my daughters attending ASU and working here. Eggemeyer's has always intrigued me with their unique store, I love what they have done. It is a special place for visitors, but that's it! Downtown San An Angelo is a hodge podge of vacant buildings, open spaces and to tell the truth the signage leaves a lot to be desired. The only thing you can say about downtown, it looks good from a distance and upfront forget it.Historically the downtown looks a lot of West Texas towns that had a thriving business but now after lean times things could be better. This new proposed restaurant does have eye appeal and it sure beats what we have now on that corner which is nothing!
The Angry Cactus will eventually have to survive on it's own merits providing quality food and service. For a lot of us seeing his place open will mean the eyesore that was downtown will be gone, making the downtown area a better looking place. Boards and commissions that hinder business development are needed but sometimes need to have their powers reined in, they need to be reminded that they are there to serve the people, the people do not serve them.
Great job citizens of San Angelo and great job Rodney. That's how you represent your constituents. Hopefully the rest of this council takes notice that San Angelo belongs to its citizens which have spoken and not to a small group of over-opinionated road blockers. We want this business and have no issue with its design.
Popps, Thu, 10/30/2014 - 12:27
Who proof reads for sa live???? Missed the first paragraph (s) of Joes' article on Abbott for the pictures that over took the printed page. What really happens when Uu transpose information from the police "blotter" to Ur printed page?? U get rants back.
Thank you Mr. Fleming for listening to the voters...Hope everyone else is following your example.
hexi, Thu, 10/30/2014 - 13:19
I would like to know how Sandra Morris justified her no vote. I looked up the list of board members and she is not listed as a board member. Did she base her vote on the main street program? Is San Angelo receiving grant money from this program?
Thank you Mr. Fleming, now get that vote for the "CACTUS" sign going so Mr. Condon can get back to his business!!!! looking forward to the opening.....P.S. Mr. Eggemeyer may have just hurt his business.....just sayin....
If they could gather up the players for a re-vote this afternoon, it would be a unanimous yes and Condon could move on... Takers? Nicely done community. Without the pressure, Fleming wouldn't have taken this step. Since he did, good on him!
bebop, Thu, 10/30/2014 - 15:10
I AM from San Angelo, so one person from NOT here scolding another person from NOT here about how San Angelo needs to look is ludicrously funny. Eggemeyers is a huge, forbidding, mafia-like presence on Block One. I don't enjoy going in there, and probably won't be interested in a restaurant with an angry, mocking logo, but that's personal preference -- tourism WILL benefit, and it's time someone told someone to just SHUT UP over this. Let the man do his thing. That corner needs an anchor. The facade looks lovely and appropriate. Let business flourish, for God's sake. What a silly, ugly fight.
I would be distressed by Eggemeyers comment had I not received a LOT of welcomes when we moved here a year ago. We chose San Angelo for a number of reasons (the fort and other history the art, the lilies, etc). I came from a town that had a bad case of the "you ain't from here" blues and was glad to leave it. Hearing "Welcome to San Angelo" over and over was a refreshing change. I do not recall a single person giving me the "you ain't from here" treatment, though I am not naive enough to believe it doesn't exist! I have since said it to several people. I truly pity a person who is so provincial as to think an "outsider" has no say--especially one who has been here for 20 years! On the other hand, I'm sure he was doing as he thought best, and all of us have made comments we wish we hadn't. Fleming, however, did the right thing.
Congrats, you were born and raised in San Angelo. Frankly, the fact that anyone would be *that* proud to be born in a small West Texas city, to the point that they would minimize another person's perspective, is pathetic. We wouldn't want the "kitsch" Angry Cactus signage to detract from the wonderful ambiance created by the multitude of gaudy women's clothing stores and dilapidated buildings nearing collapse in the next big rain. Sure, you can enjoy the unique, beautiful downtown atmosphere...after you drive down a disgusting, litter-ridden, crumbling Loop 306 to get there! San Angelo needs to get its priorities straight. I remember a time when it did! Back when a clean city with a decent infrastructure was paramount to Good 'Ole Boy phallus-measuring over business signage. And I didn't even have to be "born here" to recall those better times, either...
Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha ...... An all new respect for Rodney Fleming !!!!! So long Eggemeyer ...... Maybe the Angry Cactus can make something really nasty on their menu, something like a sauerkraut, apple jelly and Sardine burger and name it the "Eggemeyer Special"......
Eric may not have used the best choice of words when he said 'phallic', however, I think the point he was trying to make was the sculpture could be done a little classier, not so cartoonish. I would like to see more upscale, mature restaurants opening downtown. There are enough eateries in San Angelo that play loud background music to mask their mediocre food. I hope this isn't another one. I will try it one time. If the food and the atmosphere doesn't live up to the hype, I won't be back.
Clientele, clientele, clientele. Its what makes 6th St. in Austin. Frankly, upscale and mature eateries do not bring them back every week-end. There is a target clientele. That is people who spend $100 on drinks and finder foods 3 or 4 nights a week, not the $60 meals, once in a while.
He is from Wall, Texas. So kinda hypocritical to claim "not from San Angelo."

If the DHRC is just a rubber stamp for the city council why do we have a DHRC. I don't know any of the people involved nor the real substance of the issue but it seems strange to "fire" someone over a difference of opinion regarding a sculpture. There are a lot of really ugly "sculptures" posing as art in San Angelo but having a different point of view should not be a "test" for having your voice silenced.

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