Texas Legislature Passes 'Constitutional Carry' Bill Monday

 

AUSTIN, TX – The Texas Legislature has passed a bill allowing Texans to carry a handgun without a permit.  

The Texas House passed HB1927 Sunday night by a vote of 82 to 62.  

The Texas Senate passed the measure Monday by a 17 to 13 vote.  

HB1927 will allow Texans to carry a handgun without a permit.  Since 1995, Texans have been required to get a permit by attending a concealed carry class and pass a shooting test on a gun range with a qualified and licensed instructor.  

HB1927 will allow anyone to carry a handgun without a permit unless they are prevented owning a gun by state or federal law.  Convicted felons will not be able to carry. 

The bill now goes to Gov. Greg Abbott's desk to be signed into law. 

Abbott has indicated he will sign the bill.  

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This is a major mistake. Law enforcement is already seeing a shortage of applicants, and if attacks on cops rise drastically, that shortage will become more severe. I possess a LTC, and strongly believe the licensing process should stay in place.

I also predict an increase in random shootings, (as if there weren't enough already).

 

 

I agree 100%.

The "attacks" on cops are their own fault though, if they would do their jobs and stop harassing and assaulting civilians, they might not have people who feel they need to defend themselves. It isn't even that many that are killed, it just that every time it happens it is plastered all over the news for days. The FBI data for 2019 (the latest year I can find data for) shows that there were "only" 48 cops killed "feloniously", that is less than 1 a week. For a country with a police population of a bit less that 700,000 that is very low (1 in every ~14,580 or 0.0069%) for any specific group in America. Compare that to the over 1000 civilians killed by cops that same year, that is 21x more people dead at the hands of cops versus cops dead at the hands of civilians.

Not to mention that cops SIGN UP to be cops (and don't have to), citizens could just be walking to the store and be killed by a cop for nothing other than "we matched the description" of someone else.

https://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/press-releases/fbi-releases-2019-statistics-on-law-enforcement-officers-killed-in-the-line-of-duty

https://www.statista.com/statistics/191694/number-of-law-enforcement-officers-in-the-us/

https://www.forbes.com/sites/amysterling/2020/07/01/police-killed-over-1000-american-civilians-in-2019/?sh=470ff215667e

MeMe....no one cares about your endless statistical drivel, nor your parade of links that supposedly support your warped opinions. Now go play on the highway.

If no one cares then there is no reason for me to stop doing it, in fact all the more reason to step it up a bit.

With criminals not respecting the law either way, not sure how this could hurt... It's not like Texas is a pioneer with this law... If that argument were true, Florida would be out of control along with 20 other states... I think LTC Texans are upset that there's no more classism to protect ourselves.... Y'all just mad in general.

“Not to mention that cops SIGN UP to be cops”

So...according to your so-called “logic”, those who sign up for the military and end up getting killed in the the line of duty, don’t matter because “they didn’t have to (sign up)”

So ignorant!!

NO, I have never said anything against the military, COMPLETELY different group of people. One is a domestic terrorist group that assaults, harasses and murders innocent citizens of the United states, and the other defends our freedom from foreign adversaries. Very different. PLEASE don't put word in my mouth that I did not say.

If you read the context of what I said, I was saying that cops sign up to be put in danger, where US citizens are in danger by just existing, since cops can just gun you down in the middle of the street because you look like someone else.

Again, we know that you don't care about other Americans that have a different opinion than your own, you are very vocal about it.

CGM5, Tue, 05/25/2021 - 16:31

ME SOMETHING, what is your obsession with hating law enforcement? Did you go to jail once upon a time for minor in possession? Did you get a ticket for for a joint found in your car? Maybe it's something a little more serious. Are you a child molester? It seems you would be just giddy if all law enforcement would die horrible violent deaths. What the hell is your problem. 

Look, I don't want anybody to "die a horrible violent death", I just want cops that kill innocent civilians to be held accountable (Chauvin is a good start.) The reason I dislike ALL cops is because they protect one another and the so called "good" cops don't do anything about the "bad" cops. Not to mention that prosecutors refuse to prosecute them and juries believe cops when they lie on the stand testifying against citizens.

If I was walking down the street and saw a person kill someone, and I could identify that person very easily, but I say nothing to anyone, what does that make me?

And yes, I did say it was "good" when those two cops were killed last week, which in hindsight was a little overboard. But I said it because I see American citizens gunned down in the street and in their own homes on a weekly basis, with hardly any cops even getting a slap on the wrist (although that is getting better.) Then people like you just assume the citizen was doing something wrong ( which some are, but not all.) We should not always assume a cop is in the right just because they have a badge. I was "good" in the sense now the other side gets to know what it feels like to have one of their own gunned down in the street like cops do to citizens on a weekly basis. Whether or not that citizen was doing something wrong or not will never be determined, because they will never get their day in court, the cops that murdered them took that away.

Look, the law hasn't even gone into effect and there's already an uptick in gun related incidents in San Angelo, looks like Cajun was right, or maybe that's just the way things are going in general.  If it gets as bad as some of the more fearful believe it will, you may come to a day where you thank God they allowed us all to constitutional carry.  I keep hearing that somehow we won't know who's a good guy with a gun from a bad guy with a gun, well I can tell you how... by what he or she is doing with it, if they are not law abiding people, they will use the gun unlawfully, at which point they "become" the criminal. Seems pretty simple to me.

This bill is idiotic.  It serves no purpose whatsoever other than to kiss the sweaty ass of the NRA and put bucks into the hands of the gun manufacturers.  It is fodder for fools.  There are far too many damn guns being trekked around as it is and far too many of them are toted by morons.

Just wondering. Do you own any firearms? If so feel free to surrender them for the good of mankind ;)

This law should not be necessary. There was never a reason NOT to allow citizens to carry firearms. Honest citizens are no threat to anyone who is following the law. Criminals have always carried guns whenever they wanted anyway, regardless of the law.

As for the completely insane comments from Me Someone, the problem is not police officers 'harassing and assaulting citizens,' and never was. If you don't break the law, police officers won't shoot you. Even if you do break the law, police officers won't shoot you unless you resist arrest or try to harm them.

As usual, people complaining about the police have zero concept of what officers do, and less idea of what criminals do. When someone claims 'the attacks on cops are their own fault,' they're proving they have no business in the conversation, because of their amazing ignorance.

Statistics are often misleading. Mark Twain said, 'There are lies, damn lies, and statistics.' Over 1000 civilians killed by cops in 2019? What were the citizens doing? Sitting at their dinner tables? Surfing the web? No, they were either shooting at cops, or trying to run cops over with their cars, or some other illegal activity, usually attempted murder. Of cops. Play stupid gams, win stupid prizes.

Sure, there are bad cops, just like there are bad people everywhere. But the great majority, more than 99.99% of all cops, are good people doing a hard, dangerous, thankless job because they want to make a difference in society.

Want to criticize police officers? Go to the academy, earn a badge, and learn what cops do. Walk down a dark alley at night, knowing there's a criminal someplace you can't see, hoping for a shot at you, and see how you react when someone opens a back door to take out their trash.

People who bash cops make me sick. They're unfit for polite society, which, by the way, would not exist without cops. Take your whining, bed wetting, mushy backside someplace else. You're a disgrace to America.

And 'Me Someone,' if you want to reply to me, use your real name. Cowards are as bad as criminals. Grow up, start acting like an adult, and contribute to society. Otherwise stuff a sock in it.

You like to bash my columns. Fine. I'm good with that.  When you bash cops, you show your utter contempt for truth and justice. It takes a monumental amount of stupidity to denigrate people who spend every day at a job where they may, at any time, have to take a bullet for you, and they know it, and do it anyway. People who bash cops are the lowest form of humanity.

Rant complete.

Does you rant include Jan. 6th commision that you know who (Q) are opposing? Or are Capital police different "cops". I use my name too! Twinsies! 

No. I know nothing about Q anon, and don't want to.

A capital police officer, in my opinion, made a mistake. Maybe he saw what he thought was a gun. Maybe he panicked. No one is perfect. But since I don't know what happened, I'm not going to comment on it.

Interesting that, normally, when a police officer shoots someone, whether it's a mistake or not, the media is all over it. The cop's name is plastered on every screen. Not in this case. So far, the cop's name has not been released. There was an 'internal investigation' that supposedly found the shooting justified, and that's the end of it.

I'm not condemning or condoning what the cop did. They're human, and they all make mistakes. But this looks like a cover up by the higher ups to me. No information, no name, no details, nothing. Why? I have no idea.

Maybe the cop is one of the very, very few who are unfit for the job, like the. deputy in Florida who refused to enter the school during an active shooter situation. If that is the case, he should be fired, and of course prosecuted. Cops should be held accountable when they err. But since we know nothing, because the media won't report on it. I can't say.

Wait, so you are saying this cop, who happened to shoot a republican (your side) might be a bad one? But all of the other cops that shoot other citizens (that might not be republican) are mostly justified? You can't see your own bias here? At least I'm consistent.  Also, I doubt that it's the media who is withholding the cops name, it's probably the Capitol police themselves (although I have not dug into this one, I just know that cops protect other cops.)

By the way the cops in Florida was following this, and it was FOUR of them;

https://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/28/politics/justices-rule-police-do-not-have-a-constitutional-duty-to-protect.html

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5428851/FOUR-deputies-failed-enter-school-building-shooting.html

https://nypost.com/2018/02/23/four-sheriffs-deputies-hid-during-florida-school-shooting/

How would you feel if it was your children in that school?

How do you feel about the cop that was killed during the capitol insurrection on January 6th?

Lies. That what you are ha ha . Don't know about Q anon. That's a lie, and I understand why you would want to lie on top of lies, you're just a dumb kid without a clue. Sorry to have bothered you. All your humor is not funny.

"If you don't break the law, police officers won't shoot you. Even if you do break the law, police officers won't shoot you unless you resist arrest or try to harm them."

I'll be all over this tomorrow with many more examples, but I have a meeting in the morning so I'll just post ONE article that disproves this, other than the one I posted in my original higher up comment.

https://listverse.com/2019/04/12/10-innocent-people-killed-by-the-police/

" If you don't break the law, police officers won't shoot you. Even if you do break the law, police officers won't shoot you unless you resist arrest or try to harm them."

I have already posted the first link in another comment, but I will repost for completeness,

https://listverse.com/2019/04/12/10-innocent-people-killed-by-the-police/

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/05/police-shootings-caught-on-tape-video/

https://www.forbes.com/sites/gusalexiou/2020/06/14/police-killing-and-criminal-exploitation-dual-threats-to-the-disabled/?sh=4cfe19c84f0f

"As usual, people complaining about the police have zero concept of what officers do"

I do know that cops have no constitutional duty to protect American citizens,

https://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/28/politics/justices-rule-police-do-not-have-a-constitutional-duty-to-protect.html

And because of qualified immunity they more often than not get off scot free when they do something to harm an American citizen,

https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/qualified_immunity

They do commit fraud, break the law with impunity and of course are one of the highest professions to abuse their spouses.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/police-overtime-abuse-raises-issues-of-trust/ar-BB18OkBd

https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/ny-bronx-cop-arrested-by-fbi-for-fraud-20191107-xlx7r4syjzcdvlh5bm3nbzn4qi-story.html

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/roseville-police-announce-huge-edd-fraud-bust-involving-guns-drugs-witness-intimidation/ar-BB1g7cvF

https://www.texastribune.org/2020/12/15/steven-hotze-texas-election-fraud-Houston-police-arrested/

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/10/07/what-if-your-abusive-husband-is-a-cop

https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2014/09/police-officers-who-hit-their-wives-or-girlfriends/380329/

The supreme court has even said that cops can break the law to enforce the law, 

https://thefreethoughtproject.com/breaking-supreme-court-rules-cops-break-law-enforce-law/

" Mark Twain said, 'There are lies, damn lies, and statistics.' 

This is the third time (I think, at least second) that you have misattributed a quote, he was quoting someone else when he said that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lies,_damned_lies,_and_statistics

"What were the citizens doing? Sitting at their dinner tables? Surfing the web? No, they were either shooting at cops, or trying to run cops over with their cars, or some other illegal activity, usually attempted murder."

Not all, innocent civilians are killed by cops on a weekly basis,

Killed by cop for defending his family from an intruder,

https://www.9news.com/article/news/crime/no-criminal-charges-for-officer-who-shot-and-killed-homeowner-defending-his-family/73-620524248

Child killed by cop for playing with a BB gun,

https://www.gq.com/story/tamir-rice-story

Deaf guy killed by cops because he didn't "follow commands"

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/daniel-harris-shooting-mourners-remember-deaf-man-killed-police-questions-n636776

Man with down syndrome killed by cops because he wanted to watch a movie in a theater again,

https://www.baltimoresun.com/maryland/bs-md-settlement-saylor-death-20180425-story.html

Misidentified man shot dead by cops because he looked like someone else,

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donnell-thompson-shooting_n_57aa64b7e4b0ba7ed23e1a71

I could give you more, but there is 5 examples to prove you are wrong about them "either shooting at cops, or trying to run cops over with their cars, or some other illegal activity, usually attempted murder.""

Actually one more, a 7 year old was killed when cops broke into a home looking for someone who wasn't even there, 7 years old,

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/aiyana-stanley-jones-joseph-weekley-trial_n_5824684

"Sure, there are bad cops, just like there are bad people everywhere. But the great majority, more than 99.99% of all cops, are good people doing a hard, dangerous, thankless job because they want to make a difference in society."

The "good" cops don't say anything about the "bad" cops when they witness them breaking the law.

And you maybe correct it maybe 99% of cops are "good" (still don't file complaints against bad cops) but 1% of all cops in America is still 70,000 bad cops.

https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/news/investigations/2019/04/24/usa-today-revealing-misconduct-records-police-cops/3223984002/

If you don't read any other link I have here I would ask you at least read the one above.

"Want to criticize police officers? Go to the academy, earn a badge, and learn what cops do."

Maybe I am an ex-cop, or maybe ex-military, maybe just maybe I am an ex MP ;)

"People who bash cops make me sick. They're unfit for polite society, which, by the way, would not exist without cops. Take your whining, bed wetting, mushy backside someplace else. You're a disgrace to America."

Two words First Amendment. People who hate the constitution and America make me sick. Why, Kendal Hemphill, does other Americans expressing their freedom of speech make you sick? Do you hate other Americans? Do you hate the constitution? Both? Why exactly am I a "disgrace to America" for simply expressing my rights? That sounds like communist talk to me.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/first_amendment

"And 'Me Someone,' if you want to reply to me, use your real name. Cowards are as bad as criminals. Grow up, start acting like an adult, and contribute to society. Otherwise stuff a sock in it."

Again with first amendment/the freedom of speech, which you hate apparently. I will not use my real name because I do not want people to show up at my door with guns and threaten me, which would be the only reason that you would want this information. I also notice you don't ask for the names of the people that agree with you, CGM5 and BLANC09 to name two, to those two people keep your anonymity, I encourage it.

"When you bash cops, you show your utter contempt for truth and justice. It takes a monumental amount of stupidity to denigrate people who spend every day at a job where they may, at any time, have to take a bullet for you, and they know it, and do it anyway. People who bash cops are the lowest form of humanity."

Third time in a row that you say you hate the first amendment/freedom of speech and Americans who express it. Wow, says more about your contempt for America and Americans than anything else.

This is exactly what I am after truth and justice, FOR THE CITIZENS KILLED BY POLICE.

When you give me your real name, I'll think about responding to you.

But you won't, because you're a coward.

Nah, because you will just harass and threaten me, probably harm me in some way, why else would you want that information? Why don't you ask your followers who are cloaked to reveal their names? I guess you are calling CGM5 and BLANC09 cowards too then huh?

Even if I did give you my real name, you said you would only think about responding to me, you are not worth it in the slightest, "humor" columnist.

Welp, I guess I am a coward ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

The real "cowards" are the ones who will never answer me truthfully when I ask a legitimate question because they are afraid of their own answers and what that might reveal about themselves and their underlying biases and false world views. They hide (cowardly:) behind "gotcha" comments, attempts at insults, or "I won't answer you until you do X" as a way of side stepping the fact that (most of the time) I have a point that isn't all just based on feelings, lies, or biases; unlike those they have themselves.

Demanding someone give their real name seems important to you. You called him? her? a coward, when there are 30 or 40 TRUE COWARDS AND TRAITORS right there under your pathetic, cowardly, lying fingers. You are a true fool. Piss off.

"When you give me your real name, I'll think about responding to you.

But you won't, because you're a coward."

Posted elsewhere, keeping a copy so an edit doesn't happen

One more thing, Mister what comes out of a chicken's ass, You got nerve asking for ME someones real name when there are 20 or 30 assholes that agree with your right-wing crap, that you don't and won't ask for.

You a not gonna make it as a journalist, cause you are on the wrong side of history. And just sadly ignorant that your mentors are clueless idiots. Yet you think they are okay.....

Lots of people are hurt and confused about this bill passing, it's okay, the feelings, be they strong, are only feelings and they will pass people.  Meanwhile, violent criminals roam the streets everyday with guns, been happening for 50+ years and you want to cry because now a bunch of people outside the criminal element just got the permission to play catch up in 3 months? And you call us crazy!

Never called you that. Self-labeling? A lot of people will be upset, with hurt feelings when Frump goes to prison. This will pass....LOL

Texans everywhere will be oiling their guns tonight and for the foreseeable future in anticipation of September 1st.

Just following your logic ;)

Your half-ass apology aside, cops getting gunned down in the process of doing their job is NEVER a “good thing”...and the fact they “signed up” to be cops does not make them in any way deserving of what happened to them! And for the record I don’t think innocent people getting killed by police is a good thing either, in fact it’s tragic!

As for George Floyd, who was far from “innocent”, I don’t know a single person who thinks that what happened to him was right.

For the record that was NOT an attempt at an apology.

And show me how George Floyd was not innocent.

“I have a point that isn’t all based on feelings, lies or biases”

Wow you REALLY are delusional!

"(most of the time) I have a point that isn't all just based on feelings, lies, or biases"

You purposely left out an important part of that statement.

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